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If it's murder. there's no death penalty in south africa so that's off the table. >> he know it's just a judge. how is it different? is the law different when it's a murder trial? >> not really, they're looking at intent. we know he killed her. dihe intend to kill her or he thought it was an intrude sore an accident. all about intent. what happen boyfriend. was -- what happened before. was there a fight, that's why the street clothes are important. did he formulate the thought to murder her. murder versus homicide versus accident. >> can the judge base it on something -- >> 25 years if intenti...

Statute, by the congress, by the federal government. she can do it today. what she has said, well, we're going to study it. if they study another two or three weeks, sarah will pass from this earth. >> anna: weeks or months. >> she will pass from this earth and other than children will as well. it's not about sarah, it's about the rule. >> steve: base it -- right now it's on a number. you want to see that turn around? >> so does the family and a lot of children's families. >> steve: peter, thank you. >> we'll stay on it. >> brian: breaking news in the irs scandal. word out that secret e-mail a...

Into this. >> cokie, thank you very much. great being with you this week. >> lovely to be with you, terry. >> some people did think they would go younger. the average papacy, seven years. that would make him 83, base it on averages. but. one man who knows the new pope better than most is cardinal egan of new york. the two became cardinals at the same time. >> cardinal egan says francis is the perfect man for these times. >> this is the latin american moment. and i think it is wonderful that the catholic church has a leader who is from latin america. but a man who is very well educated in what ...

Originally, everyone wanted to point the blame at the movie industry, because lot of the actors will say it's a much bigger issue than that. i sat down with gee have a know rabissi. here he is. >> you can't deny a certain level of responsibility. >> and compassion. >> and compassion. but at the same time, this is more of a conversation where you have -- there has been violence and guns and films since the beginning, since the first films were made. >> alisyn: all right. kevin, let's talk about the other controversy this weekend and that is "zero dark thirty" and whether or not the producers, t...

The wealthiest americans. he needs the third part to sell the whole package. >> and david, there is a jobs report today which sort of mixed news for everyone. it's a good number, down to 7.7%, unemployment, 146,000 new jobs added but the downside is that fewer people were in the labor force a lot fewer, because people gave up on even trying. >> i think this is one of the more provocative questions and get to it on sunday, which is, are we too focused on the debt. are we not focused enough on what the government can be doing to try to spur job growth? beyond just -- >> there was a stimulus piec...