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If we don't have a firm answer to that, who knows. there's ban lot of optimism, maybe pathways for permanent residency in some capacity. but before that question is even answered we go pack to the herman cain. is it a mote with the alligators? do we build a north korea/south korea border around mexico? what is it? >> sam stein, one would hope we have moved past the question of alligator-fillede eed moats buts a fair point that john stanton brought up that what's driving division over immigration reform is the base itself, which makes tackling it that much harder. john boehner came out and exco...

She made it sound as if there were witnesses, you know, several witnesses who had reported seeing these individuals. and that does sort of make you wonder. also, the bringing in of the fbi takes us to a different level as well. and then i also want to get you on jennifer's question. how did they get on to this base with these guns? >> well, first off, getting on that base, as i recall, i haven't been there for a few years, is not terribly difficult because there's a museum on the base. the naval historical records are on the base. the base itself, the access to the base is through a gate. you ...

the dow finished up thursday, 340 points. this could be the best october in a quarter century. the economy is growing. the gross national product for the third quarter was nearly double the figure from april to june and that's thanks to consumer spending and more business investment. alison kosik will join us in about half an hour for the opening bell, but right now let's talk to global editor at large with reuters. good morning. so, what a difference a day makes. the dow futures are already down this morning and we've learned that whirlpool is cutting 5,000 jobs in north america and...

Like that. it is pure authoritarianism. the past few week, the old democratic party vanished. bill clinton couldn't get elected by tad's democratic party. he can't appear at campaign rallies they might scream at them, who. in the coming months, we will bring you reporting on what the democratic party is fast becoming. other channels want to hide the details, they don't want to scare you. we think you have a right to know what is happening. tammy bruce joins us tonight. if you think of all of the kind of famous democratic figures, moynihan, long-time democratic senator from new york, bill clint...