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Portion of the american people on the proposition you will bring back coal jobs. a lot of people will wait for that. >> we need jobs. we don't want an argument of how many jobs we will lose. we need the country to grow jobs. we need to grow gdp 3%. >> you think you can bring back coal jobs? you will have a big boom in fossil fuels and coal? >> i think we will see a boom in natural gas with hydro fracking. i agree we will not see a boom in coal. that is a base load of 30% of energy. we need to keep it there. you know we cannot have a base load based on wind and solar. take away the tax credits....

Oil and natural gas. that's causing harm and deaths right now. so when ralph kind of constructs these very scary-sounding scenarios designed to scare people, you can evaluate that against 40 years of a track record here where we know that nuclear provides the safest base load power source there is. >> let me ask you just for a second. i can't resist. in terms of scary scenarios, literally from my grandmother's house you can see three mile island. and in the film "three mile island" the second reactor there has the longest continuous run of any reactor in the world. nobody, according to the cen...

The country about investing in upgrading our power grid and making it a smart grid. are we actually set up everywhere in the country to be able to sell power back, or do we need to invest in upgrades? >> no, we're not equipped, both from a physical standpoint and regulatory standpoint. not every state has what's called net metering, allows you to sell energy to the grid. so there is not an all-50-state solution to this. but you do have about 40-plus states that have it. that's pretty good to start. second thing is, our energy use is changing too. think about the popularity of tesla and the ele...

Try to bring some balance to that. we've got to be able to come together and i'm all in on the bowles-simpson approach temple we've talked about and been working on. also the environmental and energy policy. i want a balance between the economy and environment and i've spoken loud and clear. use all the resources in our great country and the most the mix. that'ssial, natural gas, developing your solar and your wind and your renewables and fuels of the future. you can't disregard one that's a tremendous base load as coal is right now and i'm just saying, just meet us half way, come to try to un...

Republican from california is proposing a road map for america's energy future. and this is not just some legislation coming from one congressman that may never get acted on. it has some 50 plus sponsors of this legislation, not to mention the chairman of the house budget committee paul ryan. it's got a lot of backing. it calls for 200 new nuclear power plants across the country. and i asked him earlier this week if he's still comfortable with that number. >> 200 nuclear power plants is going to sound like a lot to a lot of americans who may not be aware of this plan. are you comfortable with ...