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And this take taking a knee has at least put a spotlight on the issue. >> listen, if you listen to the town hall before this, the conversations and peoples' opinion, the way they feel about it, much more nuanced than the president. even the nfl and the players have nuanced perspectives. the president is very one-sided. it's this way, my way or the highway and if you don't see it this way, then you're wrong. how does the president's base react when they hear these words? >> i think in their day to day conversation, their views are nuanced like everyone else's is. what april has said is really i...

Fact that these players are saying they respect this nation. they are loyal. they're patriots. but at the same time they want to bring attention to injustices to include issues of police-involved shootings that have been happening. we listened to spike lee a little while ago. he was ahead of his time and do the right thing. i mean, this has been going on really this policing issue with blacks in this country has been going on since slavery. and we're in 2017 now. and this take taking a knee has at least put a spotlight on the issue. >> listen, if you listen to the town hall before this, the co...

Towards the united nations, a more conventional message you expect from a more conventional president, how does his base react? >> just fine. the next day donald trump will put out a tweet to appease them on another issue. the way donald trump runs his base. the base that will never leave him because he will never forget them. i expect him to be president's tomorrow. i expect him to be presidential every day, but i do expect him to be presidential tomorrow and not have a speech that will please the base so much, but it won't necessarily turn them off. >> i guess that's the other question. talk...

Look, i didn't expect donald trump to win. i think most of my colleagues didn't. so we didn't expect to be in this situation and given how difficult it is to get to a consensus, it was hard to force that. >> talking points there from senator toomey, huh, robert costa? >> the senators i speak to on capitol hill don't want to move forward with this legislation. they know it's unpopular and they'd like to see democrats shoulder the blame for some of the problems with the affordable care act and they know the democrats would love to run against the republicans in 2018 on this health care bill, so ...

They know it's unpopular and they would like to see democrats shoulder the blame with the affordable care act and they know that democrats would love to run against republicans in 2018 on this health care bill. there is a real reluctant if they can't figure out how. maybe to shelve it and force the democrats. >> what will the base do if they punt? my gut is they punt. how will the base react? >> if they punt and prop up obamacare it will be really ugly. the structural problem they have is a faction of the republican party doesn't want to repeal obamacare and a faction of the republican party t...