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80% of both parties will show out. if you get that base support it's very difficult for obama to lose this state, richard. >> record turnout. 80% number. if that number goes higher, who does it help here, the democrats? >> well, i think the republicans are probably going to have a turnout advantage. they have in the last few cycles here. if it's five or six points that registration edge by the democrats will make up for it. but if it gets close to double digits, if they're turning out nonpartisan voters, then 9 race could be close. there's no evidence that's happening that i see. >> john, than...

You can make the argument that the deductions and loopholes they want to eliminate won't get you all of the $5 trillion, but there's snow scenario thi $5 trillion. >> greta: get at it that way. instead they get on national tv and insult their opponent. >> the woos o use of the word "s only used to shore up your base support. >> you saw in the clip, axelrod was pushed to go as far as to call him a liar, and he wouldn't do it. he kept using the word "dishonest." >> greta: other representatives of the campaign have called him a liar. >> still a line he wouldn't cross on the sunday show, which is ...

Makes the base happy. it doesn't do for anything with the people in the middle. >> remember the bush years -- bush lied, people died. that's what you do when you are trying to shore up your base support. >> obviously, you saw in that clip, david axelrod was pushed to go as far as to call him a liar and he wouldn't do it. he called him dishonest. >> but other representatives in the campaign have used the term liar. >> it's a line he wouldn't cross on the sunday show, which is telling, as far as recognizing it could turn off the voters in the middle. >> i think a lot of this name-calling is a re...

You have been spending time in egypt and here. i think there was a mass of people who were the core of the folks helping to bring down the mubarak ring. a coalition of diverse interest. you have people very devout, very orthodox muslims and liberals. once the elections happened, there was a concern about whether people who are liberals like yourself are going have purchase on the new egypt, say fighting for a first amendment or speech. is there constituency for that in egypt or is this a small minority that now that the big boys are in charge the muslim brotherhood must pay attention to it? >>...

Base support. jon: you say republicans are in a good position but last time around we know what happened. this whole thing got kicked to the super-committee. the super-committee threw up its arms and couldn't do anything. you get half a billion dollars of cuts directed at pentagon which haven't taken effect yet. >> i would argue republicans terribly mishandled the message issue in that fight. this time i think they learned their lesson from that. what john boehner is trying to do right now to make clear he doesn't want the government to default. we'll be hearing about this a good month or two....