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Obama, they have now started to tie trump to republicans, but the clinton campaign is for the doing that, because they know that she needs swing voting republicans in a lot of these states. they're going to try to be competitive in georgia, arizona has been talked about. for her to win those states, she's got to get republicans, so it's almost like her and the dnc and democrat, and the d triple c are competing with each other. >> as a republican trump has talked about a rigged election, concerning to you? >> yeah, it's very concerning. i think the impact that could have on the republican base ...

Hampshire. >> i think a couple things happen. iowa has never really mattered that much to south carolina. new hampshire, that's where donald trump has problems. donald trump needs a pretty good-sized field coming into south carolina. because he's got a base vote enough to win now. when you subtract out the other people that are there and looks like the crowd will thin. i don't think new hampshire bumps you into south carolina and gives you a lot of momentum because it hasn't in the past. the corrections have been made in south carolina. what i do know is the south carolina will punch about thr...

You to get in your seat. you tell her, i'm just going to stand here. >> e.d. is convincing me the optics of this in primary season help trump. >> e.d. also said the optics were not good for trump. in his base vote, does that help him? but that's a relatively small number of people. in iowa it's evangelical voters that believe in the christian good works and would not like this. and rough necks were in there pushing her around. but in general election, that's the kind of thing that will come back and haunt a presidential candidate. >> i agree. but in iowa, it might actually help. this is the re...

Trump is down eight points, rubio down three. take a look at ben carson with independents. versus hillary clinton. 47%, 34%. i think there are a lot of people, george, who are saying wow. this ben carson thing. >> i think they are, also there's a way of polling where you put well-known person against a fictitious name and you wind, you find the base vote against that person. and not to disparage ben carson. that's part of it here. is carson is a place holder for anybody but hillary and that's the anybody but hillary vote. >> she's winning against rubio. she's winning against bush. she's winnin...

He's climbing in the national polls inowa specifically, new hampshire as well. talk about why clinton is now going after him. does she see him as a credible rival? >> that's quite telling. i think it shows the rising status of ben carson. i don't think mrs. clinton at this stage seeing him as a general election threat, but also by talking about ben carson it allows her to widen this narrative that the republican party is antiwomen. it's a way of enlivening the base vote in which women voters are very important. she doesn't just talk about donald trump being antiwomen. she also talks about ben ...