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Backfill it with bondings that we are paying for today, so this administration, this governor has stood up and said we are not going to do that any longer and this legislative body here has stood right with him and saying we are going to be fiscally responsible. jon: it is sometimes portrayed as a bill that would end collective bargaining for public unions, does it? >> in some aspects it does. in other aspects it does know it does not end the right for collective bargaining for base wages. it doesn't eliminate or decertify unions here in wisconsin. we have given wisconsin civil service protect...

Fair wage. small ones like an ice cream parlor in georgia, to a pizza rhea in st. louis, they have all said it's the right thing to do. recently the gap decided to raise its base wages, and that benefits about 65,000 workers in the united states. and it led me to go shopping at the gap. some of you may have seen the very attractive sweaters that i purchased for my daughters. they have not worn them yet. so if they're listening, make me feel good, just wear it one time. now zingermans does not have as many workers as the gap, obviously. but they try to do right by each and every one of them. yo...