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Houston's, the team they met in october was not the same team that began the season in late march. >> it really is wonderful. obviously, in this, we have a lot of friends in washington who were thrilled to see it happen. the washington nationals, world champions. bob costas, on a personal level, i pinch myself getting to talk baseball with you the day after a world series. thank you so much for coming on this morning. >> you got it, john. always a pleasure. >> i'm happy to pinch you. >> that's something completely different we don't like to talk about on tv. >> it's been exciting to see how ha...

Consistently for four years now. he beat clinton. she is selling books at costco. he is still leading lock her up chants against her. i think it's it came back to bite him. it came back to haunt him. something that he had started and i think alice is right, it is a sign of the times. and as unpopular as other presidents have been at times like george w. bush during the war for example. i don't remember these kinds of chants during baseball games. and you know what was another only in america moment? that a proud immigrant a man who was sued by donald trump for refusing to be part of his hotel....

And as unpopular as other presidents have been at times like george w. bush during the war for example. i don't remember these kinds of chants during baseball games. and you know what was another only in america moment? that a proud immigrant a man who was sued by donald trump for refusing to be part of his hotel. for refusing to have a restaurant at his hoe nel washington. was the one throwing out the first pitch. that's an only in america moment. he was also a great humanitarian. his world central kitchen is -- >> you tweeted about that. washington nationals allowing an imfwrant to throw out...

Department and elsewhere celebrating baseball, obviously, baseballtient be a political issue. >> what was your ticket cost? >> a lot. >> i had over $600 for a standing room the other night. >> i had to mortgage the house, but i'm with michael. i think the lock him up is inappropriate from any corner. the criminalization of political differences is wrong. >> who started that? >> i think trump started it. you can't go by boos at baseball games because richard nixon thought he could beat pat brown as governor of california. he went to the opening of candlestick park, they booed the hell out of pa...

Because each one of these people, in some way, is a conspirator, and the ultimate goal of this bribery case that you so eloquently laid out. so, it seems to me that what -- >> was i eloquent or was rick ross eloquent? >> i thought you were extremely eloquent, including your article in "the washington post." >> wow, he's a close reader. i want to bring in shelby on both those points. one, what you've been finding on the giuliani front with your reporting and two, what both of you think about that as promised, the bribery piece of this in washington. starting with rudy. >> with respect to rudy, ...