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The code. to give a cscale, it's estimate to cost between $1.5 trillion and $2 trillion. what i'm talking about after you factor in economic growth would cost more or less the same. a little bit more. more or less the same. anybody who says to me this is too big of an idea, if it's not too big of an idea to cut rates on corporations and the 1%, then it shouldn't be too big of an idea to provide real economic opportunity to the people who need it most. >> when you go back to appalachia, do they look at you because of the boarding school in harvard and the education, do they think you are a diff...

Egregious tax loopholes in the code. so on a contextual scale, the taxes that got passed a few months ago is estimated at 1 to $2 trillion. what i'm talking about, after you factor in economic growth, would cost more or less the same. a little bit more. more or less the same. so anyone who says to me, this is too big of an idea. if it's not too big of an idea to cut rates on corporations in the 1%, it shouldn't be too big of an idea to provide real economic opportunity to the people who need it most. >> when you go back to appalachia, do they look at you because of the boarding school and the ...

At "the five." and unless you're my mom it's on at 3:00. >> shepard: and my dad it's at 4:00. >> does he watch? >> shepard: hopefully he's watching the rebels win baseball games. thanks for coming. >> thank you. >> shepard: three americans in north korea. there were reports that they were released. that was premature. stay tuned. we'll talk with bill richardson about negotiating with the north koreans.

His parents' undying love. >> he held my mom's hand all day long yesterday, and i called him and he said, "i'm kind of a cry baby right now, i'm not feeling very good." >> reporter: a parkinson's-type disease has kept the president bound to a wheelchair. but that didn't stop him from sky diving on his 90th birthday. >> you all right? >> yeah. >> reporter: rewarded with this peck on the lips from his worried wife. though full of vitality, famously throwing out first pitches at baseball games, the elder bush was twice admitted to the hospital for pneumonia last year. always cared for by his wife...

Will to live. i was lucky enough to have dinner with them in the fall. and he said to me, he said this frequently in the last couple years, i'm going to live to be 102, jamie. i think he really has felt that if you have seen him, he has not been hiding away, he goes to baseball games. he goes to dinners, he was talking about going to maine, he is someone who has had a great desire to keep living. i think what everyone was thinking this past weekend at barbara bush's funeral is, what about now? because the loss is just tremendous. and you could see it on his face. he was heart broken. >> mark, ...