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Kyiv independent joins me now live here in lviv. let's talk about what is going on in mariupol. besieged city encircled by russian forces. you are telling me this is one of the significant elements that we need to discuss. tell me why. >> because mariupol is unfortunately facing a deepening humanitarian crisis. there are about 400,000 people still trapped in the basement hiding under russian bombardment because -- and they are -- they are cut off from electricity, heat, and water. there are about 3,000 newborn children who are still, you know, who -- who lack medicine and food. and people are ...

With the other interesting thing about this is we don't know what the casualty count is on the ukrainian side. i think that's going to matter more than the casualty count on the russian side. the ukrainian government is not releasing those figures and the u.s. is also kind of not releasing them. i think that's also going to be very significant. >> thank you both very much. i appreciate your time. next, a family with a 2-year-old spending days and nights in their basement hiding. they only had minutes to escape when they heard the sound of russian jets. >> they packed two suitcases and left w...

I don't know i necessarily come from a conservative akron but the main part of that was having a mother who grew up in czechoslovakia and escaped. when i see the mainstream politicians of today talking about the great virtues of socialism and communism, i go back to that in my childhood, going over there every summer with my grandfather who is a blue-collar electrician and wanted to make sure that his grandchildren experienced that. it was a big part of why we don't tak take things for grantd that we would otherwise. and growing up without and having a mother who is 93 who did not live an easy...

Little bit. >> it has a little bit. i don't know i necessarily come from a conservative akron but the main part of that was having a mother who grew up in czechoslovakia and escaped. when i see the mainstream politicians of today talking about the great virtues of socialism and communism, i go back to that in my childhood, going over there every summer with my grandfather who is a blue-collar electrician and wanted to make sure that his grandchildren experienced that. it was a big part of why we don't tak take things for grantd that we would otherwise. and growing up without and having a mothe...

Such a stroij point. often women who make their lives in public space are not anonymous online. they're actual names and places. those who do the harassing are quite anonymous. think there's something we should do to change that imbalance. >> right. the people who are saying the internet isn't real, it's easy to say that if you're in a basement hiding or a police officer who doesn't want to take a report. it's difficult to know how to approach that. on the one hand, police officers don't have all the resources and technology. i think what you're saying is they're extremely male dominated. we l...