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Michael flynn, implying is important here. at the time, flynn was a national security advisor to the trump campaign. >> he hired a team of people and they went out looking to see if they could find any hackers, they identified five groups, of which two of those hacker groups were determined to be russian, they started to see if they could get the emails. >> jon: is an interesting but sometimes confusing story, i would encourage you to read it if you haven't yet. joining us now, former u.s. army intelligence officer. well-known republican operative in chicago, he was apparently out there fishin...

They are unlike any politicians we will see. their strengths are bigger than anybody in the business and their weaknesses can be as big as anybody in the business. this is typical. it's an ends justify the means mentality. we can play by a different set of rules. you don't have to be a republican to realize it doesn't make sense. it's not the way you run a government to have an off the books backyard in your basement server. it's not good for transparency or security and raises ethical questions we can't answer until we see the e-mails. >> there was fascinating information by people fairly sup...