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"huffington post." >> fewer opportunities, the science and medical opportunities have watched community leave their ranks. assistant professor at the department of psychological at the university of texas at austin suggested how he recently thought of leaving switzerland. the climate was appealing. he acknowledged and several of his colleagues had already moved to europe. for many years the united states has benefitted from the kind of reverse brain drain which is at the best and the brightest from other countries would come to the united states to do research because we had longtime generous ...

Brightest are moving. talk about it. >> absolutely. so it happened even before sequestration. but sequestration made it worse. what happened was in 2013 about $1.5 billion was cut from the nih budget. that's the national institutes of health. that affected about 1,000 scientists. so what ended up happening was the pool of money available to people who wanted to do medical research, scientific research was much more -- was narrowed zrasticily. but the number of people that wanted to do research stayed the same. you see a generation of young people saying this is not the field for me. several of...

Their hiring, stopped doing as much basic science research. so there's a concern that it's not just the academics that are slowing down. i would say another aspect of this is the defense department used to be a very big investor in scientific research, basic science research. and that, too, as the defense department budget has become squeezed, the funding has slowed down too. many people are seeing a sort of triple whammy on that. >> yeah. mike, there's that triple whammy as he said. there's also a multiplier effect that this started -- you know, you start losing the best and brightest to othe...