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Was the unemployment rate, the deficit the national debt and -qzez issues. i don't want to make it appear that he was being simplistic in describing the tea party. this was part of an extensive discussion. a serious discussion of race and the tea party was part of it. but a small part. >> greta: ken, thank you. there's so much more in your book. we look forward to reading your book. okay, did they create a really bad piece of legislation? senator orrin hatch of utah says yes that's only the beginning. earlier today he went on the record about that and washington's wild spending spree. all righ...

With the bennett and it wasn't working. how about trying the mccain. so here he was on friday, senator hatch, talking to a group of college of republicans up at utah state about health care. >> every state has different demographics, has defendant problems. it's good to allow them to work out their own problems instead of a one size fits all dumb ass program. i apologize, i should never swear. it's an awful case of crap. >> he certainly got them giggling, those wild republicans with those dirty words like crap and dumb ass. those were the winners for him. so is that the answer, talk tough and ...

Anyway, looks like he was going with the bennett and it wasn't working. how about trying the mccain. so here he was on friday, senator hatch, talking to a group of college of republicans up at utah state about health care. >> every state has different demographics, has defendant problems. it's good to allow them to work out their own problems instead of a one size fits all dumb ass program. i apologize, i should never swear. it's an awful case of crap. >> he certainly got them giggling, those wild republicans with those dirty words like crap and dumb ass. those were the winners for him. so is ...

I also make it clear under the circumstances at that time we were going down. and let me tell you we were going into it -- let me answer and then you may disagree, but you're not sitting there having to make these decisions. >> sounds like he was at the zoo. anyway, looks like he was going with the bennett and it wasn't working. how about trying the mccain. so here he was on friday, senator hatch, talking to a group of college p republicans up at utah state about health care. >> every state has different demograph demographics, has defendant problems. it's good to allow them to work out their ...