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Going on -- >> neil: he said, he called this revision to the graham-cassidy bill and republicans would be held responsible for obamacare. this is thrown together. he's not changing. >> obamacare is collapsing for the choice is not between this and a democratic health bill that it's working. unfortunately, millions of people will come to congress next year and say, you have to do something, grow up, and do something. >> neil: this does not look good for the battle ensuing for tax cuts. >> i am very concerned about that. >> neil: thank you, very, very much. it is great to see you, betsy. betsy m...

Otherwise we are going to keep on seeing that. >> trish: the thinking is that it's the democrats are essentially keeping these people in a poor situation, so that they can continue to get votes, that is the concern right now, michael. >> i mean that is a great republican talking points. when corporations do a better job of paying their employees and putting them in a position where they can go out and spend their money, then everyone works better. >> trish: now, just keep hiking that minimum wage, as we are just talking about, and missouri, didn't work out so well. >> they want their talking p...

"beating obamacare," betsy. what is your reaction? >> i find his way to flag statements terrible. the fact is, at the least, the congress can repeal obamacare, effective for a specific date in the future, like the first of 2018, that will give them a year, it will also allow this congress to move on to tax reform, which is urgently needed to jumpstart the economy. the president has done his part, he has already launched a deregulation revolution, but he needs congress to work with him to lower tax rates and really provide economic -- >> trish: why has mitch mcconnell given up, then? >> i can't...

Senator, a republican president, they made it clear they want to repeal obamacare. it's >> trish: so republican voters are pretty mad. they send donald trump to the white house for a reason, they sent all the lawmakers to washington for a reason, and this was a big one. >> and he has made it very clear that he supports what is called clean repeal, let's repeal it now, and say as of august 1st for example, there will be no more individual mandates, no more job killing, end. of >> trish: and worry about fixing it later? >> yes, making way for tax reform in the meantime because the nation, the ma...

So the other thing that the republicans will do when they have replacement, make sure there's a wide variety of more affordable plans. fewer mandates, another method of funding those with pre-existing conditions rather than on the backs of the they w instead. that will really control premium growth. premiums have doubled since obama care went into effect. doubled since the end of 2013. >> neil: so play this out. republicans do have to be aware of having a fairly close replacement after they repeal, right? maybe not immediate as rand paul wanted. but it can't be years, can't it? >> of course no...