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I heard there was a point where you were chained to a bed. did that ever happen? >> yes. that happened a few times. the night i escaped when they got me on their custody they stripped me of their clothes and then they handcuffed me, my hands to a bed post and my feet to a bed post. so i was kind of stuck there standing overnight. >> standing overnight or lying down? >> i was stuck there standing overnight. but then i imagined to get on my knees i went to it

Greta, had an opportunity to speak to your son on the phone. here's some of what he had to say. let's play it. >> they stripped me of my clothes and then they handcuffed me, my hands to a bed post and my feet to a bed post. so i was kind of stuck there standing overnight. i think it was for discipline, for punishment. i was hit multiple times. i was punched in the stomach a few times to the point where i couldn't breathe. >> now, jill, i know you're operating as counsel basically for your son right now and arguing his case but to hear your son's voice and to know what's been happening to him, ...

Laying on my side to uncomfortable position. i managed to work my way to sitting on the bed with one of my arms underneath my legs beings underneath my leg and then on to the bed post. and then i managed to fall asleep with my head on my knee for a little bit. >> why did they think that was necessary to change of plea you to that? do you know? was it to be punitive or was it because they thought it was for your own safety or that you wouldn't run away? why do you think they did that? >> i think it was for discipline. >> why do you think that? tell me more. >> after they got ahold of me, once i...

Laying on my side to uncomfortable position. i managed to work my way to sitting on the bed with one of my arms underneath my legs beings underneath my leg and then on to the bed post. and then i managed to fall asleep with my head on my knee for a little bit. >> why did they think that was necessary to change of plea you to that? do you know? was it to be punitive or was it because they thought it was for your own safety or that you wouldn't run away? why do you think they did that? >> i think it was for discipline. >> why do you think that? tell me more. >> after they got ahold of me, once i...

>> right. >> every moment as it comes, waiting for the time to pass. my mind is kind of -- became my own torturer in a way because it's the only thing i had. i think about my life and it became instead of a complicated full life i started thinking in terms of regrets and the present becomes just unbearable with nothing around you and the future is just fear. >> were you able to sleep? >> no, that was -- that was kind of how i dealt with it. everyone has different anxieties and different difficulties. for me i just -- i had a hard time sleeping. >> i would imagine the line between being awake a...