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The president, chief of staff at g.s.a. was intimately familiar with this in may of last year and reported to the white house there was a problem and after it, only after, we pressed him to get the information, and after the hearing, he back pedaled and said it was a casual confirm and may not have been seen like that. he was a prior staffer who knew in plenty of time to have this dealt with long before we finally found out 11 months later, so, the beg question for our committee is, why are you saying quick and decisive? why do you imply this went on in previous administrations? own up to fail...

>>dave: the obama administration would say no, we do not want pilots to pack heat. they are our last line of defense. and another question, would you secure the skies for just about the price of checking a bag? costs abound $15 a flight to train and arm pilots during each flight. the obama administration wants to cuts out that program and save about $45 million a year not even a drop in the bucket. >>nicole: and now a quote from janet napolitano, the reduction for the federal flight deck officers program is predicated that the program is not risk based. we are moving in the t.s.a. to risk-base...

>> well, i can't speak for every state's laws but at least what i'm familiar with is there's a statue of limitations, though i don't encourage anyone to commit fraud when purchasing a product. secondly, there's more rejections of coverage under medicaid, medicare and veterans' benefits than there is in the private sector. >> on what are you basing that? where are you getting your information, lisa? >> go to heritage.org for some of the information. cross-reference always. statistics, i think, there's lies, lies and statistics. do your homework when you're looking into these things. >> you know...