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Certainly. karen, would that work as he goes forward to the parole hearing, that sort of approach? >> welt, he already went up for parole actually in 2013 and he got it, so, you know, there's certain factors that the parole board look for. obviously, the goldman and brown murders are not supposed to be considered. how that works unconsciously, though, richard, is another question. but they look at such factors like his age. we know simpson is now 70. it is actually a first conviction, right, so even though the goldman, that was a big deal, but he was not convicted, so that can't be considered,...

What i'm saying? >> can i jump in here for a minute? >> go ahead. >> this is what you need to understand about the law, it's not the intent, it's the action. you -- listen to me -- >> i didn't have any action against her, though. >> yes, you did, because when we looked at the film, there is contact with your leg and her body. that constitutes -- >> i understand that, but did you see me just turn around directly and just kick her? >> okay, and that's what i'm telling you. in that situation, when it comes to the law, it's either yes or no, and it's not your intent. you can bring that up, but in ...

>> she was placed there not for behavior problems but for separation. the case was so high profile the prosecutor wanted all involve weren't housed close together until the case goes to court. so everyone will have a fair chance of telling their story. >> ready to get the [ bleep ] out of here. me not being around nobody. me not talking to nobody. i don't be wanting to wake up at all. for real. >> cory hall has struggled with his housing assignment as well. after being arrested he was placed into a special unit that only contains inmates charged with murder. >> we call it the murder pod. every...

The door right now and i wouldn't have any idea that was him. and my mom, she tries to be there for me, but she really doesn't. she was going to try to actually have me come home and stay with her, but she doesn't have the money for it. >> out of 12 messages i had today, 7 messages had to do with behavior problems going on in the unit. >> stephanie roberts is a psychiatric social services counselor in pendleton's d-9 unit. over the past week, d-9 has had its share of trouble. >> we've had people battering staff, we've had people urinating under doors. we've had a lot going on. so, i want to se...

>> yeah. >> on her shift to watch mayberry, officer lombardi fills the time by reading to him. >> i felt some compassion for him coming in to be in a little room day after day after day with very little interaction. and i read to him some articles from "time" magazine, and several people came up afterwards saying thank you because other inmates were listening. so it was kind of nice to feel a little bit more needed than just sitting there watching somebody. >> mayberry says he has suffered from mental illness since age 12. he is representative of a problem that is draining finances and resourc...