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Legitimate or perceived grievances. if you feel that you're marginalized within society and somebody comes along and they can give you an ideological framework that identifies an outgroup, an other you can blame as being responsible for all your problems -- in this case, the shooter in new zealand in his so-called manifesto, what he identifies as his reasoning, he's fearful of invasion. he's fearful of his in-group being overrun and marginalized. those ideas are much the same of what you find in the core ideas of fascism. >> of course it doesn't match with facts on the ground here. the muslim ...

Military analyst. rick tyler a republican strategist. and evan bayh, a former democratic senator and governor from indiana. he's also co-chair of the bipartisan group no labels. it's good to see all of you. general, so many questions. we did learn some things from general dunnford yesterday. but based on what you heard and what you know, does it sound, this whole incident, sound like something u.s. forces could have or should have been able to sniff out in advance? >> well, you know, i've been in a lot of small unit combat actions. they're inherently confusing. these special 70 forces are all ...

The caterpillar tracks lying around suggest it was, in fact, a tank car bomb. unstoppable. nearby, kurds train new recruits in a wasteland. this fight is spiraling into the long term. now with six different armies in it. the kurds and isis with the coalition in the air. the turkish military trying to seal their border and the free syrian army rebels also helping the kurds. and then there is the peshmerga. iraqi kurds allowed in by turkey bringing with them heavy weapons that many say stopped kobani being overrun. turkey did let 150 of them in and is allowing replacements and some weapons, too....

All of that came from turkey. turkey is behind all of this. they bring the people, give them weapons. i saw it with my own eyes. they also claim the huge car bomb behind this crater drove in from turkey which turkey also denies. the caterpillar tracks lying around suggest it was in fact a tank car bomb. un0 stoppable. nearby, kurds train new recruits in a wasteland. this fight is spiraling into the long-term. now, with six different armies in it. the kurd and isis but the coalition in the air. the turkish military trying to seal their border and the free syrian army rebels also helping the kur...

The rebel fighters? >> look, we have a humanitarian crisis. that is what has sponsored this incredible outgrowth of international support ranging from our european allies to our arab allies. what's holding this together is strong support for a mad man killing and slaughtering his people. that objective is being achieved on the ground. benghazi was on the throws of being overrun. that has been stopped in its tracks. i think we can debate ultimate goals. if we do get to that layer of a goal where we are going after gadhafi, we will see some fraying of the support we have so far. >> j.p., we talk...