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>> what's your reaction to what we just heard from mitt romney and donald trump? >> absolutely, there should be no religious test. the constitution makes it clear that it doesn't matter whether you're a socialist, it doesn't matter when you're an atheist. as long as you're an american citizen and you mead the 35-year-old mark, you're qualified to run for the presidency. and there's no question there should be no test of religion as it is laid out in our constitution by our founding fathers. >> but more specifically, to what dr. ben carson said and what trump just said, he just said if properly...

President. why don't you take a listen to this. this is whoopi goldberg this morning on dr. carson's response. >> ben carson, that's what they used to say about black candidates. that's what they said about shirley chisolm. she was a woman and she was black, so you know they went to town on her. so i know the person who is running is how you have to look at them. their religious -- that's like saying no jewish person could be president. why would you do that? >> we have a probable with the armstrong williams shot. i apologize for that. i want to bring in sam harris and dean medallah. thank you...

No two individuals are alike and we perceive things quite different. and, obviously, when you come to these conclusions, like many americans, the majority, that feels just as strongly as dr. carson does about this issue, it pains us to feel and believe this, but there's a painful reality of what's happening in the world today. the world has changed. and people who, in their own way that embraced the islamic faith and the things that they do, they do these horrific things. i wish they would be more condemnation. >> can you be more specific about what you're saying? what do you mean? >> listen, ...

Denounced carson's comments. what ben carson said, though, is part of what we've heard from the right over and over, that being muslim somehow makes you less american and you have less rights. i'm a threat to this country, i'm an enemy to this country. these are things we hear over and over. we're doing our best to fight against these ideas, to make it clear to our fellow americans that i don't want to impose islamic law, yet somehow we keep hearing this over and over. and it's a fight. you know, it's a fight. i'm trying to reach out to my fellow americans. and win the hearts and minds and it'...

And then it says no religious test shall ever be required as qualification to any office of public trust under the united states. so what does this have to do with religion? >> it shouldn't have anything to do. ben carson just made a blunder. but you don't want to demonize one group of americans or act like any american isn't good enough to be president of this land. so i think it's the low moment of carson's campaign thus far, even though there's many fine qualities about him. this wasn't helpful to our country to say that. >> representative henderson, hillary clinton tweeted this. can a musl...