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My colleague anderson cooper interviewed some of them, i interviewed some earlier and it s going to run later. they said they forgive him, they re not mad at him, they want him to turn himself in, they don t want to see him die. it s just interesting to me, ben, that the family can have that much dignity and that much grace. just before i go to you, ben, i m going to give you the last word. walter, you re saying you don t want any copycats. that s basically what you re saying in that last sentiment? you don t want anybody to try to do the same thing. we don t want any more violence. we thank the family for their compassion because we certainly have sympathy and compassion for them. ben, what do you say to them and what do you say to the family and america who is watching? omega si phi, our chapter, we work closely with the police department and we re doing so at this moment. it s so vitally important for steve to turn himself in. he has talked about some of the challenges he has, ....
Family and america who is watching? omega si phi, our chapter, we work closely with the police department and we re doing so at this moment. it s so vitally important for steve to turn himself in. he has talked about some of the challenges he has, so if he comes in peacefully, there can be somebody that can talk to him and we can glean information from why he participated in such a heinous act. but, you know, we really want this to end peacefully, and we think it can happen. and again, as walter said a few moments ago, we have brothers across the country who would receive him if he calls, but he s got to take the initiative so we can end this peacefully. ben holbert, jason clopman, walter madison. thank you, gentlemen. i appreciate it. thank you. god bless. when we come back, the white house saying president trump won t release his 2016 tax returns, claiming he can t because he s under audit. but experts agree, even if he s ....
Okay, a nationwide manhunt tonight for steve stephens. he s accused of shooting to death 74-year-old father and grandfather and posting the video of the killing on facebook. i want to bring in jason clopman, walter madison and ben holbert, all fraternity brothers of steve stephens. gentlemen, thank you. i wish we could have met under better circumstances. walter, let me begin with you. when you saw the action of this terrible crime, what went through your head? i really struggled for a number of hours reconciling in my mind the guy that i know with the guy i see here on facebook, and i still can t really do it. it s just it s so surreal that, you know, it s just ....
And if you are anywhere in america, any brother in this country, in this world, please reach out to them and we will help you. i think it s amazing that you re saying that, but also what is extraordinary to me maybe it s not so extraordinary, especially when it s god-fearing people. i heard the family members. my colleague anderson cooper interviewed some of them, i interviewed some earlier and it s going to run later. they said they forgive him, they re not mad at him, they want him to turn himself in, they don t want to see him die. it s just interesting to me, ben, that the family can have that much dignity and that much grace. just before i go to you, ben, i m going to give you the last word. walter, you re saying you don t want any copycats. that s basically what you re saying in that last sentiment? you don t want anybody to try to do the same thing. we don t want any more violence. we thank the family for their compassion because we certainly have sympathy and compassion f ....
Be somebody that can talk to him and we can glean information from why he participated in such a heinous act. but, you know, we really want this to end peacefully, and we think it can happen. and again, as walter said a few moments ago, we have brothers across the country who would receive him if he calls, but he s got to take the initiative so we can end this peacefully. ben holbert, jason clopman, walter madison. thank you, gentlemen. i appreciate it. thank you. god bless. when we come back, the white house saying president trump won t release his 2016 tax returns, claiming he can t because he s under audit. but experts agree, even if he s under audit, he can release them. so will he ever do it? ....