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He's getting to it by being tough. >> ben, always good to talk to you. thank you for joining me. coming up the house oversight committee is about to vote on whether to hold trump's attorney general and secretary of commerce in contempt of congress. a member of the committee joins me next.
Force with a view to ensuring that the agreement will enter into force within 45 days. i'm not misreading that. it is entirely unclear what in the world what i just said actually means. it's obvious that the president is very much on the defensive about this issue. ben rhoades is former deputy national security adviser for president obama and an msnbc contributor. i'm not going to ask you what i read. more importantly, give me a 50,000 foot view of this, watching donald trump fight with an ally with whom our manufacturing and trade bases intertwine over an unrelated issue, claims success on so...
I'm not misreading that. it is entirely unclear what in the world what i just said actually means. it's obvious that the president is very much on the defensive about this issue. ben rhoades is former deputy national security adviser for president obama and an msnbc contributor. i'm not going to ask you what i read. more importantly, give me a 50,000 foot view of this, watching donald trump fight with an ally with whom our manufacturing and trade bases intertwine over an unrelated issue, claims success on something that was already settled. this definitely has to add something to your calculat...
Problem. he wants there to be a crisis because it gives him something to talk about on immigration, and he wants to tell his base he's getting to it by being tough. >> ben, always good to talk to you. thank you for joining me. coming up the house oversight committee is about to vote on whether to hold trump's attorney general and secretary of commerce in contempt of congress. a member of the committee joins me next. i felt i couldn't be at my best wifor my family. c, in only 8 weeks with mavyret,
Multiple times of treason by his enemies. none of the people he mentioned committed that act. nbc news's pete williams said treason doesn't mean being disloyal to the president and actions against a private citizen which donald trump was. i'm joined by ben rhoades for president obama. and paul butler, a federal prosecutor. the law here, there is a law, you cannot commit treason against the united states. it's the most frightening charge you can make. >> article three, section three of the constitution. treason is adhering to the enemy providing aid and comfort. that's what the fbi noticed with...