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>> we're used to taking precautions with radiation. you go to a doctor's office and notice his technicians leave the room when there's an x-ray. is there something where you don't take enough precautions, we're not going to make a major investments necessary to make sure as much we can there won't be an accident. >> i think you are right about that, chris. you look at japan. the third biggest economy in the world. it's advanced. has lots of earthquakes. many facilities were built to withstand an earthquake, but not at this level. why? because people thought, well, that's unlikely. we're not go...

>> we're used to taking precautions with radiation. you go to a doctor's office and notice his technicians leave the room when there's an x-ray. is there something where you don't take enough precautions, we're not going to make a major investments necessary to make sure as much we can there won't be an accident. >> sure, i think you're rilgt. you look at japan. the third biggest economy in the world. it's advanced. has lots of earthquakes. many facilities were built to withstand an earthquake, but not at this level. why? because people thought, well, that's unlikely. we're not going to spend ...

About nuclear power at least in poor countries, in areas where the earthquakes are a big deal. >> well, we're used to taking precautions with radiation. you go to a doctor's office and you notice that he and his technicians and assistants leave the room when there's an x-ray. we know how to take precautions. is there something in the economics of our society of humanity that they don't take enough precautions, that i'd rather get it online and we're not going to make the major investments necessary to make sure as much as we can, there won't be an accident? >> sure, i think you're right about ...

>> sure, i think you're rilgt. you look at japan. the third biggest economy in the world. it's advanced. has lots of earthquakes. many facilities were built to withstand an earthquake, but not at this level. why? because people thought, well, that's unlikely. we're not going to spend a ton of money on something that's highly unlikely and then the day comes when the unlikely thing happens and you're at risk. benefit analysis tend to make you not prepared for those things that are unlikely, but could be catastrophic. >> let's compare this to the situation over there with the facility there that ...

Postpone. right? >> exactly. >> justice denied. justice delayed. justice delayed is justice denied. is that what's going on here? they're going to let this mess sit out here for years because it's good economics for them? that's what you're saying. and do you have any evidence to back that up? >> well, yes. the evidence is this. the evidence is clear. we know the super tanker can take 21 million gallons a day. and that it can keep it from getting to our beaches. what they're counting on is let it come to the beaches. they don't care about pensacola or mobile. they don't care about the coast be...