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Policy it's ridiculous. i want to come back to you on one point. the first point you made about the marriage penalty within welfare and so on. that's something people have talked about for a while. there have there been efforts to do anything about that on the federal or state level? where does that debate stand right now? >> the marriage penalty in the tax code in for middle-class has been solved. the government benefits for people who are below that level. that still persists. it has gotten worse. you could say the affordable care act, obamacare, made that worse. do you want to cut the benef...

>> specifically here, if you're looking at a blueprint here, potentially, and again, this is just a starting point here today the way these congressional negotiations go, but how important is it for you, for instance, to get to a balanced budget versus to preserve the promises that are made to american people, the american people when it comes to social security and medicare. how do you balance those priorities? the white house is saying, that promise is sacred. >> i certainly do believe we need a five year plan to get to a balanced budgets. and i think one of the basic blueprints is to grow t...

You can chew, can you deliver on shrinking this gap? >> sure, we can. and it doesn't mean that those other factors aren't crucial and that we don't wish we had allies in washington that could move this agenda, in the meantime, a city like new york with tremendous resources and tremendous regulatory power, et cetera, we're getting paid sick days to a half million more people than have them today. we expect to have it done next month. a half million more people know they're one paycheck away from disaster. we're doing a lot of things to push up wage and benefit levels. we expect him to pay a liv...

This agenda, in the meantime, a city like new york with tremendous resources and tremendous regulatory power, et cetera, we're getting paid sick days to a half million more people than have them today. we expect to have it done next month. a half million more people know they're one paycheck away from disaster. we're doing a lot of things to push up wage and benefit levels. we expect him to pay a living wage. we're helping the fast food workers to get a better pay level. we're doing a lot of things that the city can do to change the rules and raise the floor for people. >> final question, i wa...

Other factors aren't crucial and that we don't wish we had allies in washington that could move this agenda, in the meantime, a city like new york with tremendous resources and tremendous regulatory power, et cetera, we're getting paid sick days to a half million more people than have them today. we expect to have it done next month. a half million more people know they're one paycheck away from disaster. we're doing a lot of things to push up wage and benefit levels. we expect him to pay a living wage. we're helping the fast food workers to get a better pay level. we're doing a lot of things ...