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Personal. so when mr. schumer -- leader schumer talks about the 75% of the people who get their benefits in the workplace, and that is so. they are affected by the affordable care act in that the costs -- increase in premiums is the lowest it's been in the 50-some years they've been tracking that. so it is contained cost. it has increased the benefit package. as the leader said in terms of no discrimination in terms of pre-existing condition, no lifetime limits, no annual limits. you can stay on your parents' premium. being a woman is no longer a pre-existing condition. so the rate of growth o...

Provide us with health care is laughable. most people get it. >> sabrina, at least hobby lobby won't be forced to subsidize forcing people to do what they may not want to do. >> david, i think one of the problems is that the supporters on the right and critics on the left have made this a conversation about birth control rather than about health care. we want employers and employees to be able to negotiate freely. we want them to be able to decide if they want more salary, take home pay or stronger benefit package. we want that freedom in the workplace. this rulely is a step in that direction.

Good benefit package and now they will. i think we have accomplished both of those things. a loft people signed up that didn't have insurance and many had lousy insurance and i think that will continue over the next few years until we cover almost everybody and provide a good package for people who are seeking. >> is there anything that they hit on or any nerves they such on that are legitimate and worthy of discussion? >> because of the president's statement of how you can keep your policy thought that meant they could keep a lousy policy. i have never been an advocate of saying you can keep ...

For insurance. and again, you know, i talked about the massive resistance of the opponents of the aca, and several states and about a third of the states, there's been legislation enacted to restrict navigators, to make it tough or even impossible for them to help people sign up. so what i'm saying is despite all these obstacles, millions of millions of people signing up is really a tremendous accomplishment. >> yeah, the focus all along, jay, has been on the problems with signing up, but not on the actual coverage of the plans themselves. so what can people expect once everything goes into ef...

Don't urgent he -- urgent he need health insurance, and they're so desperate they're leaving the door open a few more days. >> i look at these numbers as, pardon my french, hiney backwards, and leaving aside the 318 million americans in the country, we focus how many are signing up for this particular law and the benefit package. but we don't concentrate on how many new are signing up, how many of them are young, crucial to pay for this, and speaking of pay, how many have actually paid? it would be analogous to hopping on amazon.com. you have a bunch of items in your cart. right now they count...