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There is a long standing history here, and you are more familiar with this, even, than i am, i'm sure, of protecting the internal deliberations, the communications in a white house that's a long-standing position that has been held by administrations of both parties. and so you do not release that kind of communication lightly. in this case, because in an extraordinary circumstance, related to the confirmation process for john brennan, cia director, we made those e-mails available in the way we it. in camera, which means that members and staff could look at then, spend as much time as they wan...

Tend to be protected for all of the reasons that are important in a deliberative process within the white house. but we took that step, because we knew that they would demonstrate what we have been saying all along. that ambassador rice was speaking based on talking points, provided by the cia. and that the fundamental error in those talking points was corrected by us when we became -- when it became clear that new information shed new light on what happened, and this was not a case as republicans charged again and again, that ambassador rice had, at the direction of the white house or anyone ...

Dump, which seems in many ways to have solved a lot of problems for the white house. i mean, the stack is out there. we all have them. i've got my 100 pages. and we're looking for the incriminating thing. you know, that proves the republican case. and it ain't there. >> speaking of marriage vows, my wife works for the white house on congressional -- including on benghazi. full disclosure. i agree with you. it's -- i also agree with jay. there was a reason to hold these back for protecting the ability of people to have conversations internally. but now that we see them, the only thing that stri...

Targeted to specific reporters who they knew had conversations, not 100 reporters at "time" magazine. >> yes, absolutely. and today the president spoke about the need to find a balance between national security interests and the first amendment. and my only question to jay would be, your administration has had twice as many leak investigations as every other administration combined. in this case, you went very broad in the subpoenaing of a.p. reporters. how can you say you're hitting that balance if you're on the very far end of it? >> alex, the -- will the a.p. story stay alive, given that th...

Fundamental issue of what does security mean, why were there intelligence failures and not this tit for tat about a turf war. >> jay carney was talking when they were subject to subpoenas investigating the leaks about valerie plame and our public understanding, they were very targeted to specific reporters who they knew had conversations, not 100 reporters at "time" magazine. >> yes, absolutely. and today the president spoke about the need to find a balance between national security interests and the first amendment. and my only question to jay would be, your administration has had twice as ma...