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Hillary clinton, if she's the nominee, she's going to be formidable. she's going to be tough and the republicans are going to have to get their act together. >> can i ask a follow-up question? >> yes, you have one. >> mitt failed to nail obama on the benghazi question. and from for whatever reason. >> you threw your pen against my wall. >> i did that. shouldn't the republicans -- it looks like everything's over for now. shouldn't republicans revisit this and basically call her out on the fact that she lied to grieving parents? shouldn't they do that? >> i think it probably, first of all, i don...

At this point is the equivalent of cyber bullying and i just won't do it because it is wrong. >> okay. well i'll just ask you a pointed question. will either of them appear in the next democratic debate? >> probably not. that is up to the debate sponsors obviously but i would think not. maybe some would say it is putting them out of their misery but aisle let others make that conclusion. >> some people said that, you know, for the first hour of the debate jason johns debate he was kind of sleepy and needed a red bull but after he perked up. >> i think he perked up. i think his closing statemen...

>> well, peter, i think many americans are confused by what exactly a secretary of state's role is in a situation like benghazi. >> well, i think there's probably no question about that. but i think that what we've now discovered as the governor points out and i wrote about it last week in a column called "the benghazi backfire" is that the republicans have turned a look into how do you make our embassies more secure and how do you protect people into a hit job on hillary rodham clinton. now, that, to me, is pretty stupid. i mean, that's not smart for the republicans to do. and i think on the ...

Gift to the republicans. making a video about any given issue she's waiting on and using the line of attack that she's waiting for political purposes to put her finger in the wind and then make a decision. that is not a narrative hillary clinton wants to feed and i think she gave them a little piece of video but i don't think that moment takes away from how hugely successful the night was for her. >> and a last question for you jeff. interestingly most political analysts say hillary clinton won the debate. but if you go online, bernie sanders won hands down. why the discrepancy? >> well carol ...

Hillary is going to do extremely well. >> let's go back to the all lives matter thing for just a moment. star, i want you to address this. the question was posed and i think actually jim webb said all lives matter. but all the rest of the candidates said black lives matter and here is why. but that was easy, wasn't it. >> there is just not a focus on why the blacks lives matter is significant to where we are in america today. blacks are crying out for educational options but they are in lawsuit against liberals like hillary clinton who insists their kids must be trapped in failing schools. bla...