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Before the horse, but there have been a number of democrats who spoken on record saying that they believe that that is an option. we'll talk more about that later in the show. but one so visible, your colleague on the leadership team, jim claiborne. is this a possibility in your opinion? is the president maybe in a position asking the american people make me do it? what do you think? >> i think that certainly it's arguably in his power to do so under the fourth section of the 14th amendment. >> you would suggest that now? >> i would not suggest it now. i know the president is looking at it. hi...

14th amendment for the president? i don't mean to put the cart before the horse, but there have been a number of democrats who spoken on record saying that they believe that that is an option. we'll talk more about that later in the show. but one so visible, your colleague on the leadership team, jim claiborne. is this a possibility in your opinion? is the president maybe in a position asking the american people make me do it? what do you think? >> i think that certainly it's arguably in his power to do so under the fourth section of the 14th amendment. >> you would suggest that now? >> i woul...

Under the fourth section of the 14th amendment. >> you would suggest that now? >> i would not suggest it now. i know the president is looking at it. his legal team is looking at it. whether he has that option. he doesn't believe he does. his legal advice has been that it would be at best questionable, doesn't believe he has that authority. but very frankly, if it came down to his looking default in the eye on tuesday or taking this action as president clinton said, better to take the action and find out later that perhaps he went beyond his authority but at least protected the credit worthines...