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Total since the 1970s. he's been general secretary from 1981 to 1998. he is fifa. his whole life is fifa. which is why he's so reluctant to give up the presidency at the age of 79. >> and it is likely, at least before today, at least before wednesday, it was like that he was going to win that fifth term. he does seem untouchable. but i do want to move on to the swiss investigation. they're now looking into the bidding process for the 2018 and the 2022 world cups, both in russia and in qatar. how likely is it that those countries are now going to lose the right to host the world cup? >> it real...

Investigators? >> reporter: there's been corruption alleged over the last several years about the bidding process that delivered the world cup to russia in 2018 and qatar, as you mentioned, in 2022. the swiss officials will be looking special the bidding process to see if there were indeed illegal kickbacks and bribes related to the awarding. right now, fifa says that they will not reopen the bidding process, but especially with qatar, a country that doesn't really have much of a fifa soccer pedigree and is known for extremely high temperatures that would make it difficult to play the world cu...

For the world cup because of bribery? >> certainly possible i think. we're going to hear more and more about the bidding process for the 2022 world cup, qatar one. a lot remains to be answered. could very well have been a dirty deal. >> it makes deflategate seem very small. very small indeed. >> there we go. >> to compare this multibillion dollar enterprise to a deflated football -- the white house is defending its defense secretary after he said that iraqi forces do not have the will to fight. but as those forces now try to capture ramadi, isis is fighting back. we'll take you live to baghd...

The swiss. >> from a swiss ritz to brooklyn you know that's a big change. now, the irony here is as you know evan, this has been part of the mythology of fifa. people always saying it's a dirty organization nothing was done. how does this effect the u.s. interests? >> well there's a couple different ways. the u.s. was up for the 2022 world cup and it lost to qatar in a bidding process that is widely believed to have been corrupt. that is now being investigated by the swiss authorities. the fbi looked into it and hasn't been able to bring any charges. you'll notice one name that is not in the l...

They actually have found what they call a criminal intent within the 2018 and 2022 bidding process. they could end up losing that tournament altogether, which would be a huge blow. >> it would. we should see how this -- we will see how this unfolds. thank you. and today's bing pulse question is about the scandal and soccer's popularity. we want to check in with frances and update the reaction from viewers. great stuff out on 6th avenue from people walking by. they feel heartfelt about this and heartsick about it. >> it wasn't hard at all to get people to talk about this knowing that globally...