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Exasperation that's an attempt to belittle ryan but actually shows a little bit more -- i think too much strain on the part of biden. you know, as a consummate pro, if you've got the facts on your side, you don't lose your cool at all. hey, take this on. that's just plain wrong. this is the wrong way to look at it. it was just over the top in terms of who is this guy? who is this young turk? he doesn't know what he's talking about. and that was, i think, just one too many when, you know, ryan was focused, you know, he was making a very focused attack there, and, you know, debate it out. debate...

Issues. he cares deeply about them. he speaks from the heart. and that's what you got last night. and then there were sometimes when paul ryan said things that were outrageous. and any normal person would respond, as the vice president did, with malarky. david gregory mentioned the fact that, you know, paul ryan said that unemployment around the country was over 10% just like in janesville, wisconsin. we all know that's not true. it's now at 7.8%. republicans have been campaigning for all these months, you know, saying that we wouldn't get it below 8%. it is. they just don't apparently like th...

He's not doing a lot for his own approval ratings. do you disagree with that? >> reporter: yeah, i hear what you're saying. because you assume the debate -- you know what i saw last night from some liberal folks on twitter? you know, what was interesting last night is the liberal folks on twitter were obsessed with joe biden last night, and the conservative folks i follow on twitter were obsessed with joe biden last night, was more about biden, less about ryan. but i saw for the first time from some liberal elites, if you will, on twitter, biden 2016. i had never seen that in my life before. i...

Biden. >> yeah. >> but, look. i think there was something else that, you know, what you saw from biden over and over again was gosh, i can't believe these guys. they just don't ever tell the truth. and i can't let him -- instead of i think at times it would have been okay to dig in, be intense and take apart the argument. tom said it, this is the excesses of being a longtime pall. one thing biden missed, and you saw it in the exchange over unemployment in scranton and janeville, let's look at the economic record. i think they want to spend the remaining weeks telling the american people partic...

Last night. we all hold our leaders to different standards. joe biden, in a debate like that, would be fine if he were running for congress, if he were running for the senate. i personally found it off-putting as a vice president. i prefer the lloyd bentsen approach, if you're going to take somebody apart, do it with a low, steady voice. i'm just wondering, what are your thoughts stylistically? did joe biden -- joe biden do what joe biden had to do last night? were you, as a washington guy that's been around this for a long time, did you find it off-putting, or do you think it was called for? ...