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A lot of americans, even those who disliked donald trump and thought he was guilty, the incarceration or home detention of a former president is a bridge too far. that's what he is speaking to. and if it comes to that on july 11, his belief is that those people will come out and potentially support him in november or get off the sidelines to support him? in november. so when we try to attach absent meaning to his words and phrases, look, he has said some outlandish things over the years. i will not deny that this is not one of those times i do want to note that we don't know what the sentence ...

Going to try and make the point to the jury that he was trying to get clean. he had just come out of rehab and that this was not a man who when he checked that box, knew he was lying, john. >> all right. katelyn polantz for us, we are seeing some arrivals of the principal players in this case, as you said, live pictures from outside the courthouse right there, caitlin paul, let's thank you very much let's talk about all of this right now, joining us right now, defense attorney and former prosecutor randy is ellen brandy. >> thanks for coming in. what do you think of the case against hunter bid...

Jurors if the juror knows anything and if the judge is smart, the judge doesn't do it in front of everybody else. you bring an individual jurors because you don't want to give other jurors now. oh, wait a minute. i didn't know about that. oh, i can get off this jury simply by saying i can't be fair and impartial because hunter basically was involved in a plea deal. that's really interesting. you also make the point that you think hunter biden's case and donald trump's new york criminal case, that led to his conviction, are two sides of the same coin. >> explain this, brothers in arms starting ...

Possibility at the end of the day, i think the judge will not do it. and so he i think he will sentence into some something else. and i think he will suspend that sentence until i after the election. so if trump wins, i don't think you'll be doing community service like we've been hearing or anything like that until until after and you had a chance to represent the former president and a separate case, you turn that down. >> do you feel like that was the right choice? >> i do for me and my family was the right choice listen, it's hard as a criminal defense or to watch and not say, man, i wish ...

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