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Conspiracy theory, it's looking backwards. it's probably not a crime. but the biden stuff absolutely could be. >> we keep saying if. it happened. and we've seen it. >> all right. elie, bianna, thank you very much for helping us go through these texts. >> we were just talking about what the text messages also show which is rudy giuliani's central role in all of this. he hangs over the text messages and we're getting new details about what he did in the testimony yesterday. we'll explain next. hi, i'm dave. i supply 100% farm-fresh milk for lactaid. it's real milk, just without the lactose, so y...

[inaudible] ukraine is an absolute cesspool. have other presidents promised to clean it up? if so what was that. on one hand i understand his frustration because if all of this russian collusion nonsense came out of ukraine, he wants to figure it out. conflicted devastated parent whose child overdosed in the drug house and they want to find people responsible and bring them to justice even if it's vigilante justice. the problem is rudy giuliani is making it seemed like he went to the drug house and bought a bag of math so why is ukraine this place were democrats and republicans go for oppositi...

Not supporting him. howie: white house aide steven miller that it was a deep-state operative, we do not know the man's identity. let's get to the biden part of this. using as leverage when he was vice president to fire controversial prosecutor who had a case against ukrainian oil giant that was paying big bucks to hunter bind, although hunter biden not accused of wrongdoing, is this on the same level, should they be paying more attention to it? >> the trump people want to say it was only the biden stuff and a lot of the press it's the biden stuff doesn't really matter, it's just a trump story ...

Schiff knew a lot more about what was going on than he let on which raises some fairly serious and troubling questions whether he was part of this effort and perhaps even coordinating it long before anyone else knew what was going on. steve: hold on. you are saying you are concerned there could have been coordination between adam schiff and the intel community? >> i think it's very much concerning that schiff, based on his own statements before these details were ever released seemed to be read in on them raises those questions and he and his entire staff and those in the intel community and i...

Ukraine is an absolute cesspool. have other presidents promised to clean it up? if so what was that. on one hand i understand his frustration because if all of this russian collusion nonsense came out of ukraine, he wants to figure it out. conflicted devastated parent whose child overdosed in the drug house and they want to find people responsible and bring them to justice even if it's vigilante justice. the problem is rudy giuliani is making it seemed like he went to the drug house and bought a bag of math so why is ukraine this place were democrats and republicans go for opposition research....