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Cables. >> well, when it is all right out there, i guess you have a point there. quickly, guys, we'll get to mr. trump's cabinet. heard from phil keating he was finishing up the last two appointments today possibly before christmas and the two appointments left are agriculture secretary and then also the secretary of the veteran affairs administration. and you've been hard on mr. trump, whether in this segment or before, how do you feel about his cabinet now? >> well, i mean, look, i'm going to say general mattis, is unquestionably the best choice possible. we have energy secretary, rick perry...

Companies doing business in north dakota, they want a stamp of approval to go wherever they want to go, even the national park lands, how important is this race? >> weal, the agricultural commissioner is one of three votes on the industrial commission and if ryan tiller were elected, yes, he could be outvoted by the other two. but if he would get permission to those in the state who feel like perhaps their concerns are losing out to the oil and gas industry right now. >> when you were there, what kind of a pulse do you get of the people? >> i think the people are proud that they are helping to...

May be getting through crop insurance subsidies that they, themselves, voted into law. joining me now is chef tom colicchio. a board member of food policy action. it's always great to talk to you, tom. >> chris, how are you doing? >> food policy action, you guys have been doing great work on the farm bill. it looks like this is going to be the farm bill we get. what does tom colicchio say about this bill? >> it's a terrible bill as far as i'm concerned. hunger advocates i work closely with are really concerned about this. i would be somewhat disingenuous if i didn't point out there's good thin...

May be getting through crop insurance subsidies that they, themselves, voted into law. joining me now is chef tom colicchio. a board member of food policy action. it's always great to talk to you, tom. >> chris, how are you doing? >> food policy action, you guys have been doing great work on the farm bill. it looks like this is going to be the farm bill we get. what does tom colicchio say about this bill? >> it's a terrible bill as far as i'm concerned. hunger advocates i work closely with are really concerned about this. i would be somewhat disingenuous if i didn't point out there's good thin...

About giveaways to big ag. there were reasons to vote against this bill. we think it's goldilocks approach. eventually everybody comes together in the middle. it may be there's no more middle and you've got to go with one party or another and force it through that way. >> what does that tell us as we wait for immigration to finally be an issue on the house side? it might have all the momentum in the world coming out of the senate and that might not be enough. >> you have to look at everything being presented. if we don't pass a farm bill by september, we go back to 1930 law. and, i mean this i...