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The road, use whatever metaphor you want to use. but the problem is, our budget since you and i left back in 2001 has doubled from $1.8 trillion up to $3.6 trillion. and we're just saying that it's time to change things. let's get back to fixing the budget and getting america back on track again. >> congressman, i want to switch gears for a second. your district is arizona, which in many ways was kind of ground zero for housing and a lot of damage in the economy. now we're hearing how housing's coming back, you know, your constituency is right kind of in the middle of a lot of the trends we're...

And health care spending isn't a rational market because all of us when you're sick, you want everything you possibly can get. >> right. >> and so there's -- i don't think we talk enough about this. there's really a fundamental scariness at the heart of this which is what's driving the long-term deficit problem is an irrational market about our most -- the things that are most important to us. this is not about big bird, not about npr, this is not about discretionary spending which is, what, 12% of the budget, defense, entitlement, this is about health care. and i think that until we have a bi...

>> drama at "the view." >> lewis weighed in this morning on "way too early" and gave bill his unconditional support. i know bill was like -- thank god. >> oh, wow. well, it's good to know that it goes on. >> that's great to know. that's right. they were saying going to miss joy, but they were saying elisabeth was going to be fired because focus groups showed she was conservative. >> you can't do that. that would be a problem if you were being fired for your point of view. >> barbara said they weren't going to fire her. >> not for her point of view. >> you can't do that. >> i've been telling ph...

Imperial powers in afghanistan it was an incredibly difficult terrain. it's barely a country in many ways. one of the things about karzai is i remember back in 2001 people saying, you know, we know we can't buy a war lord, but the problem is in afghanistan, you can't even rent them. and that's true of karzai in many ways. and so i think this will be studied forever. i hope it's studied forever in terms of a mission defining a mission more clearly. and the idea that we have to sit here in 2013 and make such an obvious, painfully obvious point after the experience of vietnam, after the experienc...

Crisis isn't a huge problem, it's a big budget problem, but please, don't blame what people eat. you've got to look at the whole thing wholistically and that's what willie and i always say, wholistically. >> people have too many calories in this country. >> by the way, i've got blueberries. don't even think about it. i've got blueberries too. >> balanced diet. >> we have a couple of other stories that are -- >> yogurt -- >> that's good. >> this one -- >> pure sugar. >> i'll end on saying this. before you criticize me for my opinions, give me a better solution. take a look around in this countr...