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Really being done on the fly. i mean, with these last-minute meetings, everything being pulled together, the risk is this will be a photo op and nothing will come of it and you've already used your big chip, getting two leaders together to meet, and you don't have much leverage then in the future to get real progress or concessions out of the north koreans. >> ambassador? >> i think this is going to come out in the wash. if the north koreans don't agree to a joint statement that lays out denuclearization, that is, getting rid of their nuclear weapons, having them put under control by internati...

They live very well, they're never short of anything, but on the other side of it, i know all of them when they went to school went through some embarrassing, terrible times, you know, being mocked and things like that. but you know, as i said, they live comfortably. you know, they've got -- i give them an allowance, which is not too much and i think they're fine. >> you said that you've got eight children. there was a period where you were reluctant to admit to one of them, sarah, who is the girl that you gave up for adoption. but that's -- i think that's had a happy ending, hasn't it? >> hap...

You know, it's fame has -- they live very well. they're never sure of anything, but on the other side of it, i know all of them when they went to school went through some embarrassing terrible times, you know, being mocked and things like that, but, you know, as i said, they live comfortably. they've got -- i give them an allowance, which is not too much, and i think they're fine. >> you said that you've got eight children. there was a period where you were reluctant to admit to one of them, sarah, who is the girl that you gave up for adoption. >> yeah. >> but i think that's had a happy ending...

The other side of it, i know all of them when they went to school went through some embarrassing, terrible times, you know, being mocked and things like that. but you know, as i said, they live comfortably. you know, they've got -- i give them an allowance, which is not too much and i think they're fine. >> you said that you've got eight children. there was a period where you were reluctant to admit to one of them, sarah, who is the girl that you gave up for adoption. but that's -- i think that's had a happy ending, hasn't it? >> happy ending. >> or happyish. >> well, we didn't -- yeah, her pa...