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With alleged links to a terrorist group into the federal courthouse in charlotte. >> we went to trial in june of 2002. there was a lot of security in place. there was countersnipers on rooftops and helicopter patrols and a lot of security with the movement of the defendants in the case. the courthouse in charlotte, north carolina, became just a big circus. >> hart testified completely. he confirmed he was raising money for criminal contact. >> one by one pled guilty. only two left standing were hammoud and his brother. they went to trial. >> did you cross-examine him? >> i did. it's nerve rack...

Crime, basically. kristin: does he have a point, or are you still not buying it? >> no, you know, i'm not buying it. but we do have to remember, i mean, mark ger goes is an excellent attorney. he might turn this entire thing into a freak show in order to try to get his client off. and remember, we had o.j. simpson, we had r. kelly, snoop dogg -- kristin: it's already a freak show. >> i'm sorry? kristin: it's already a big circus. what more could he do? >> the best thing gaer goes could do is put the chicago police department on trial and say that they are racist, they didn't like him because h...

Control over that. her attorneys have no control over that. i think they have bent over backwards to accommodate her. they've said they'll fly to california. >> how are they bending over backwards if they won't bring in any other witnesses? >> i don't know exactly what the rules are. but know -- >> they can bring in other witnesses. >> then let them bring them in. i have no problem with that. the witnesses she keeps putting forward keep turning around and denying what she's saying. i mean, she's had -- >> then what do you care if they come out? it only helps your cause. >> listen, i have no pr...

I think they have bent over backwards to accommodate her. they've said they'll fly to california. >> how are they bending over backwards if they won't bring in any other witnesses? >> i don't know exactly what the rules are. but know -- >> they can bring in other witnesses. >> then let them bring them in. i have no problem with that. the witnesses she keeps putting forward keep turning around and denying what she's saying. i mean, she's had -- >> then what do you care if they come out? it only helps your cause. >> listen, i have no problem with it. i have no problem with it at all. it's going ...

As a teenager he only attended reluctantly. when traveling evangelist mordecai ham came to town it was no surprise that billy wanted nothing to do with it. (billy graham) when mordecai ham came to charlotte i thought it was some sort of big circus or a big emotional event, and i didn't have any thoughts about ever going. [narrator] but a few weeks into the three-month-longevival billy frank's curiosity got the best of him. he hopped on a friend's old pickup and set out to get a glimpse of the fighting preacher. i'd never seen such a large crowd attending a religious meeting; i think, three or ...