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Presidential candidates. >>alisyn: it could trim the $1.3 trillion federal deficit by just more than .1 percent! it would not help there. >>clayton: a drop in the bucket. >>clayton: we got hopeful with the simpson-bowles, and paul ryan's budget plan, big cuts, $5 trillion. not so likely. president coming out and bashing paul ryan's budget after his own budget could not get one vote in the house of representatives. >> you look at their budget, and it is no exaggeration, they would cut things that we have always believed were at core of making america great, education,

These are big, big cuts. but no matter how cleverly, and i think pretty well boehner has played the inside game, he's losing two levels of the outside game. the first to the tea party people. you had one of them on saying $61 billion or bust. and i think the wider public, which is upset with everybody, but i think in the end will still, despite the clever maneuvering by boehner on the military funding and all that, still more likely blame the republicans. >> richard wolffe, is boehner in a vise? he's got the president pushing from one side, the tea party behind him and social conservativists. ...

That. >> starting with zero. >> yeah. these are big, big cuts. but no matter how cleverly, and i think pretty well boehner has played the inside game, he's losing two levels of the outside game. the first to the tea party people. you had one of them on saying $61 billion or bust. and i think the wider public, which is upset with everybody, but i think in the end will still, despite the clever maneuvering by boehner on the military funding and all that, still more likely blame the republicans. >> richard wolffe, is boehner in a vice? he's got the president pushing from one side, the tea party b...

Compromise. >> what i find interesting about this is i think a narrow sort of poker terms, boehner is doing very well. i think he's cleaning the president's clock. he's got the white house up to $35 billion or something like that. >> starting with zero. >> yeah. these are big, big cuts. but no matter how cleverly, and i think pretty well boehner has played the inside game, he's losing two levels of the outside game. the first to the tea party people. you had one of them on saying $61 billion or bust. and i think the wider public, which is upset with everybody, but i think in the end will still...

Schumer that speaker boehner is in a box is the notion that if he accedes to the wishes of the tea party, and those that said big, big cuts, $60 billion 59 a minimum, then any risk of shut down and he is the speaker presiding over what and that would be a mess. is he in a box on that? >>guest: no, he is not. speaker boehner has the will of the american people and you saw that change in the house of representatives which is the people's house and once again, we have talked about this before, when you are talking about fighting over $61 billion and the gao talked about $100 billion to 200 billio...