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Hierarchy of who he should be listening to on any particular issue. so in some ways, it's like this, everybody and nobody in terms of his advisers, and so that's, i think, why you've seen a lot of this chaos. because there's so many voices in the president's ear at any given moment and he hasn't been able to really sort out what his own ideology is, right? this is a president that didn't come into the white house with any formed policy idea. it was more an attitude. you see this white house now trying to figure out what that means in terms of -- >> we're going to shake things up and change eve...

State and this particular portion of the roadway, interstate was shut down many, many, many hours especially on the westbound side and we had lots of snow, high drifts, and i'm sure those retaining walls on the bridge probably acted as a snow fence and collected a big drift and enabled the vehicle to go over it and make the fall to the river below. bill: how does a dive teamwork through a frozen river. >> i don't know, i'm not a diver but my hat is off to these guys. it looks like they're wearing some type of cold water gear and they are truly heros in my book, out there. dealing with these ab...