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To me how important that space is particularly right now. you've got california's got historic drought. this has gotten less play. it's hotter than it's ever been. how important is that space that regulations created a barrier between the library and all the brush that tends to burn so quickly. >> extraordinarily important. when the fires are burning theer these homes particularly burning uphill, they burn very, very rapidly especially aided by the wind conditions. this 100 feet of defensible space is essentially trimmed down to maybe an inch or less of grass. so this grass will burn if you wa...

Historic drought. this has gotten less play. it's hotter than it's ever been. how important is that space that regulations created a barrier between the library and all the brush that tends to burn so quickly. >> extraordinarily important. when the fires are burning theer these homes particularly burning uphill, they burn very, very rapidly especially aided by the wind conditions. this 100 feet of defensible space is essentially trimmed down to maybe an inch or less of grass. so this grass will burn if you watch the footage of the fire up here relatively slowly compared to the burning wild nei...

Neighborhoods. >> you can see the flames just about maybe 20 feet away from that one fence. >> reporter: a small brush fire in simi valley spread quickly. hundreds of homes in its path. >> so we're on the northern end of the rustic fire that burned just about a month ago. how many acres burn? >> about 190 acres. >> how far are we from the reagan library. >> as the crow flies, just two miles. >> could we see fire like this up by the reagan library? >> absolutely. i was a young chief officer and we had the immy valley in 2003. we had 40-mile-an-hour santa and ma na winds. the jumped the road and...

Down to 3% of what it normally would be this time of year. and yet, here you know, only a few miles from where the last big fire was locally, they're going to have this debate. and they won't talk about it. >> what does that mean though? you're someone who's worked a lot on this issue. you're a very smart guy, fairly technically adept i think it's fair to say. i think about this all the time. so our system 60 vote filibuster, it's hard to see a path from a to b to getting to say carbon pricing or a carbon tax or something like that. what's the path forward? tell me what you're doing today abou...

A. times today that the snowpack is at the lowest level since they've been able to measure down to 3% of what it normally would be this time of year. and yet, here you know, only a few miles from where the last big fire was locally, they're going to have this debate. and they won't talk about it. >> what does that mean though? you're someone who's worked a lot on this issue. you're a very smart guy, fairly technically adept i think it's fair to say. i think about this all the time. so our system 60 vote filibuster, it's hard to see a path from a to b to getting to say carbon pricing or a carbo...