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Hurts our country terribly and labels it a witch hunt, is he just wrong? are those statements appropriate? >> i think he is wrong. i don't think it's a witch hunt. look, if the president thinks there's nothing to hide in this, this will exonerate him. and this will, look, president reagan had a special counsel appointed on him and he was a very successful president for eight years. the appointment of this does not indicate guilt. it's just, say, we have legitimate questions. what's great about our democracy, a lot of the times we get into this kind of trees in the forest and forget looking at ...

The appointment of this does not indicate guilt. it's just, say, we have legitimate questions. what's great about our democracy, a lot of the times we get into this kind of trees in the forest and forget looking at the big forest. what's great about our democracy is we old our leaders accountable. there's so many countries around the world that they can't do that. >> interesting you talk about celebrating them. the president has not said he'll fully comply with the investigations. what happens if he doesn't? do you anticipate the white house will? >> i think the white house will. in terms of w...