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The former secretary is in palm beach working with the boys and girls club there which she is a board member. she also is helping to lead this education task force that compiled the report. i talked to her just about an hour ago. >> what you've determined is there is a national security risk, a rick to our nation's security because of the declining education. the lack of real progress in improving the gaps, the big gaps. how can we fix this problem? >> well, joel cline and i, the forrer new york city commissioner for education and i had a very good task force that looked at this issue where na...

He's in a cave and has to send courier pigeons out and can't be involved operationally. no. he's in westchester. he could in fact -- >> a nice place in westchester. >> he could have been more involved. i shouldn't be flip about it. there's a huge assumption how al qaeda has been working in the last nine years now has to be totally rethought in hard evidence. >> major, how do we perform this tap dance with pakistan, we know we can't trust them. that's not news. >> we can't trust them totally. in certain instances the level of trust was some what better than 9/11, it's just not continuous, there...