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A lot of focus on the -- it was almost footnotes and oh, by the way there was a big grift, they al allege. what is in your mind, the potential illegality, with what is said? >> well, if you raise money with the public with misrepresentations and you know that you're lying about how you're going to be using the money. that could be mail fraud, wire fraud, it's prosecuted under any one of a number of federal crimes. the question is how do you prove each individual knowledge and intent. so, it's not simply proving that a false statement went out on an email that, you know, was from donald j. trum...

An attorney, when you're putting together a case, you're building this case, right? is there a specific case that you see the committee building right now? >> well, they're doing a few different things. they're building the case for the conspiracies that we've been talking about. conspiracy to obstruct congress duties, conspiracy against the united states. now also wire fraud comes to the surface. they're talking about this -- the big grift or the big rip-off, which is a terrific term i hope they keep using. there needs to be more investigation. you have to follow he the money. you have to pro...

Struck me, because how many republican politicians have come on your shows, asked that question, and they don't even want to get close to that answer. >> top three leaders in the house of representatives on the republican side would not answer that question as declaratively. >> if one fifth of what you heard about donald trump today was true, and i believe all of it was true, teleit was his tea. would you hire that organization? would you go to work for them? the republican party continues to raise money off him should ask that question. you mentioned the big grift. read your emails today or i...

>> yup. look, of all the many ways in which -- and you eluded to this -- the ways we can talk about the republican party has become the trump party, not the grand old party, not the party of lincoln, is the notion that the big grift is at the center of it all. the great irony of the fact that online donations, the ability to do that in a seamless way, an easy way for people to put in a dollar or $5 or $10 is supposed to democratize the process and get more grassroots. on one side, grifters can easily pick the pockets of morons who look at this -- the reason i laughed, mika, was that you see --...

But yesterday he tries to get on the phone with those leaders in saudi arabia and the uae and they will not take his calls. >> brian: do you know why? >> ainsley: we want you to support the civil war in yemenened the second reason in 2020 when he was running and criticizing them about the death of the journalist khashoggi. they are furious with him about that they have a big grift. >> brian: third reason we are about to go into the iranian deal. they're the arch enemy in the middle east. because we isolated iran we got the abraham acompleted and started putting isolated pressure on them they s...