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See anything. >> and you were pretty far away. this is a newer movie theater. you have to walk up a lot of steps to get to the back of the theater. you think you were how far from the back of the theater maybe? i was with my boyfriend and we were about five or six rows from the top, top. >> so it's pitch dark in there, the movie is still playing. you're hearing the noise from the movie in addition to the gunfire that's happening inside. it must have been hard for you to see what was going on. >> yeah. the only real thing i could see was -- it was like a bright white light from the gun where he...

Bomb squad here. they operate almost -- each and every day in a collaborative environment. it went seamlessly and we rolled in the national assets. thank you. >> how much experience does one have to have in bomb making to make something like this? >> so, again, there is unfortunately quite a bit available on the internet. but we don't want to go into any of the tactics or procedures of what mr. holmes may have done. again, because we don't want to jeopardize the prosecution. i'm going to turn it over to chief oates at this point and i'll remain for questions afterwards. >> we have some other m...

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