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The sanctions and the searching of eight, if you will, both military and economic aid to ukraine. what do you make of the u.s. nato response so far, and where it goes from here, as russia continues to escalate, with very few tools left in the sanctions toolbox for the west? >> well, i think you're absolutely right. the response so far has been strong. i think the unity that's sewn so far has been excellent, and i think it's one of putin's big miscalculation, that's just being set. having said up, i do think there are other tools. i do think there are other levels of sanctions, whether it's kic...

Parts that companies buy. you're going to get a lot of goods that consumers buy. it's going to raise prices. we've already seen trump's tariffs in other areas raise prices for consumers. we've seen it with washing machines and steel and aluminum, which means it's going to get passed through to consumers as well. we'll see a lot of pain for consumers and it will likely at least partly offset whatever benefits they're getting from the tax cut. >> clearly, the white house is trying to temper the impact for consumers or at least the perceived impact. apple products, iphone would be exempt from the...