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So it's a pretty big nut for us to crack to beat newt with the union leader behind him but that would be a huge signal that we're the alternative, even in joe mcquade's backyard. >> we talked to governor jon huntsman in hampstead. >> we've got to get the message out. will you do it for me? >> i like the guy. he talks in -- i can understand what he's saying. but how can he win? >> first, they want a consistent conservative. my record is absolutely as a consistent conservative. look what he did i did in utah. they could they want someone electable. if you combine electability with a consist cons...

Been able to concoct to portray an image of who you are. they want to see the real deal. if you want something that's produced out of new york, then romney and obama are the two candidates that you want. >> you want to bed the conservative alternative. you want to be the guy that's the starkest choice. how do you do that heading into south carolina? where do you need to finish here and what about south carolina? >> well, we've in many respects accomplished what we wanted in new hampshire. we've gotten big crowds, the enthusiasm has been maintained. the energy around the campaign, the attention...

>> the extraordinary thing is because the tax coffers are gone because business is down and everything else rather than if there's going to be a $50 billion shortfall, you would think that states and municipalities would cut back in other areas to keep the teachers afloat. >> but look, they know they've got that big hunk of dough floating down the river from washington. >> let's be fair. there have been cutbacks at the state level all across the nation. california, new york. got it. granted. >> some of them are brutal. >> yes, there are. there have been no significant cutback in the pensions p...

Reform went through and say, okay, you can spend money there, but you can't put the money towards infrastructure. if you're balancing $200 billion from the federal investment without the answer of where that money will come from, it has to come from states, localities and the private sector, possibly taxation, this might have repercussions on the kpeupb trail. remember, we're in an election year. there is going to be a money fight here that's frankly under started. the democrats commenting on this are asking, where is the money coming from? not saying we won't work with you but they need that ...

The guy that could explode the gender gap because his wife buys so much jewelry. >> i don't know about that. >> that was harsh and personal. what struck me was the difference in world view given all that we have been talking about with regard to isis and the war against terror. here you have the candidates on stage and you hear rand paul stand up and rand paul says there's too much intervention. we conservatives know that government doesn't always work at home. why do we think it will work abroad? he gets loud applause. you listen to not only fiorina you listen to walker, cruz. these guys all ...