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Against your case. so it's an appropriate enough time for andy to speak out. time will tell whether those words have actual force, whether there's something behind those words or just an angry man who's a had his benefits taken away from them. >> rob, what about whether this is fair punishment? someone that respects and loves the fbi. on one hand, you can understand why andrew mccabe will be upset about the way he's treating. a lot of people are saying this is someone that appeared to have misled investigators, leading the hillary clinton e-mail investigation under questioning circumstances, t...

He is a central player. and there have been concerns among republicans on capitol hill that he was a political figure. that's not just his failure to acknowledge at the early juncture that his wife was politco, taking the contributions from a very close clinton ally. but he was politically motivated in other ways, too. we suspect that that might come out in the i.g. report. that's why this i.g. report is so key and why the scrupulousness of michael horowitz and the neutrality of michael horowitz will weigh heavy in whatever this report says. >> the inspector general, a lot of people waiting fo...

Purview. can you tell you that firing anyone is very difficult to do. certainly is the last resort. there's more information coming out. obviously the inspector general is doing a very -- extensive research on this. >> and juan made a fair point a moment ago that it was the president, as you know, you're very close to the president. you speak with him on the phone and meet with him and try to set the agenda in washington. it was the president a few weeks back that attacked michael horowitz's credibility and saying why is jeff sessions relying on him? horowitz is an obama crony. he was appointe...

Trying to undermine intelligence operations that are at the moment looking at his relationship or his campaign's relationship to russia, then we have something that is quite shocking in terms of what is going on in our country tonight. this definitely stirs up memories of things that happened during watergate. >> laura: on that point, democrats are on social media wearing to it watergate and tying together the president firing james comey, now making sure through his attorney general but making sure andrew mccabe is not only getting fired and but not getting his pension. now they say the presi...

Mccabe's office. why would someone like andrew mccabe in a hyposituation in the fastball be seen a as someone anti-trump? aren't they supposed to be especially in the upper echelons of the fbi down the middle? >> they are. this is coming from a report that the public has yet to see. it's hard to draw conclusions about the underlying evidence. the fact that in his statement responding to his termination, he went after the president, he chose to frame it in political terms. that undermines his argument that he's been this unbiassed civil servant. at the same time, you have to ply a level of skep...