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Question. >> the bhous hwhite house has a legitimate gripe with what they see as unfair or biassed coverage. that is their prerogative to think that, right, or thinking they get dinged for things they shouldn't be dinged for. again, broadly speaking, that's a lot different from a more ft d fundamental underpinning. >> yeah. does the white house have a right to determine who the reporters get credentials for the networks? and the answer obviously is well you can't do that. but the sec paond part is i thi if you're disruptive and you can make a case that maybe that person should be excluded. whi...

Is not what is effective in the long run when it comes to serious threats to the first amendment and reporters' jobs to do their jobs no matter who the president is and no matter the journalist. >> i think that this is a huge win for press freedoms. i think as someone who has had the president not be as happy, i'll say, to put it mildly -- >> let me just -- he said it was a racist question when you asked him a very liegitimate question. >> the judge said you can't say you don't like that person so pull the pass. the president said there is more hard passes coming. there could be more decisions...

Cases filed under seal in the district court. so i think it's likely that there are some things sitting on the back burner. and then the bigger question, the big structural question has to do with whether mr. whitaker is going to interfere with this. >> i want to get to you on that. there is, and many i colleagues on the hill and i have been working working on this look this back and forth. whitaker, some folks on the hill want the president to name a new attorney general sooner rather than later. >> when you have the attorney general fired and the oversight for the investigation moved to some...

That's the way the constitution was written. >> the other piece of this, too, is the message. being -- the press corps has a long history. go back, a long history of combative moments. tha that's what you're supposed to do. that is the point of the job when it comes to holding people combatible. being ru -- combative is not being rude. >> there are moments when the reporters ask president or aides questions in the press briefing as the president is going on trips, when he's on trips. that is part of the first amendment and part of what enables us to cover the white house. the fact of the matte...

That is stealing the e-mails from the dnc and then the release of them and the question would become with respect to mr. mueller, how do all these pieces fit together? >> ken, let me bring in our other guest. talk a little bit about the trump administration drawing this line between wikileaks and this we've seen before, and the press more broadly. journalists more broadly. the assange attorney is saying the only thing more irresponsible than charging a person for publishing truthful information is put it in a filing that was not intended for the public and not any notice to mr. assange. >> and...