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President of the united states used that material in the second and most crucial debate. it's really an amazing story. >> ed, your interview with him, you asked him why he decided to release the take. let's take a listen to his response. >> how big a decision was it for you to release the tape and to go through all of this? >> it was -- it was -- it was tough. and i debated for a little while. and, you know, but in the end i -- i really felt like it had to be put out. i felt i owed it to the people that couldn't afford to be there themselves to hear what he really thought. >> you know, you and...

Hat. why are you not yet convinced of that. >> i know how big a decision this is. we have seen how important her family is to her. the kind of attention she gets by having a reporter, a journalist buy a house next to her in order to observe of her up close for a book is just the tip of the iceberg for somebody who runs for president. you and your family are subjected to coverage that is unrelenting ann and all consuming. every american gets a sense how private an individual she is when it comes to her family. there are several months to go before anybody has to make a decision. let's not count...