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Profile losses. the there a lesson for democrats? >> i think democrats have to keep the attention on trump nationally. that energizes the base. that's the negative -- that's the anecdote to the trump fear. but they also in these -- in the congressional races have to talk about the issues. and i think the real measure of this is not what we talk about every day and what you see on the national news. it's what's in their adds. and in their ads you see much more about health care. you see much more about wage stagnation. you're talking about the tariffs. real issues. so i think they have to do bo...

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Great reasons. and the children are the victims. i have nothing but empathy for these children. they are the victims. though, primarily of their parents who made a terrible decision of breaking and entering into our country. >> they were not breaking and entering. >> well, they're not legal. that means breaking and entering. >> they are desperately looking for asylum because they were under the threat of death. >> i'm glad you mentioned that, because if you look at a map, maria, it's a very long way from central america all the way through mexico to the united states. over -- >> that's how des...

You get sidetracked. let's get back to the subject about what happened today on the hill. this is hhs commander jonathan white testifying today he expressed concerns to the administration that separating children from their parents was a bad thing. watch this. >> during the deliberative process over the previos year we raised a number of of concerns in the program about any policy which would result in family separation due to concerns we had about the best interest of the child as well as about whether that would be operational supportable with the bed capacity we have. there's no question. t...

Testimony that makes him look bad. he had no control over that. i'm sure that frustrates him and the white house. this trial will be controlled by the judge. what come out during the testimony, he's a participant as far as a websiitness, but he ca control what's said. the other thing is maybe something happens during the trial. manafort says look, we need to strike a deal. let's talk. i know i didn't want to plea guilty early but now i've seen the evidence. trump is not coming to my rescue. i'm not getting a phone call about a pardon, maybe i can enter a plea and a new development occurs that ...