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Will be when the curtain falls down and i think there's enough notice give on the the target of the investigation, mr. trump and his associates, that that's why we're getting such a persistent strong pushback. so the congressman is important. we have another country -- candidate. i'm just saying congressional candidate? >> candidate, yes. and the way it's described in the indictment, he knows that these documents are stolen. this person knows documents were intercepted in violation of american law, federal law. >> and it seems to show, john that bob mueller is implying he's willing to pursue t...

Think maybe i better place a call to the special prosecutor's office or the southern district in new york or someone in the justice department and say maybe i will complete so i think for michael cohen, for paul manafort even though he's already indicted but he's in play in terms of someone who can flip, if more others we don't know much about at this point, this is a signal that mueller knows an awful lot and assuming there is some collusion with american which is i think is hard to doubt, i think this is his way of signaling those americans let's play ball here. >> let me go to evelyn and ba...

Outcome. >> he did say that. >> number two i can make the case that trump has been very hard on putin, not publicly but look at what putin has got. >> secretly? >> secretly which is a mistake by him politically. look at the sanctions. he inherited very tough sanctions during his transitions and put more on putin. >> i hear john flannery grumbling. i am so over on time you have to go quickly. >> well, i think we're so far past it with this president, he makes errors in every direction and when has a president ever been treated like a baby floating overned a nation that's our ally? >> john, i wo...

E-mails affiliated with the clinton campaign. we have a range of guests so we begin with bill kristol, editor at large of the "weekley standard." new york's evelyn farkas, a russian expert and diplomat. john, what speaks to you in this indictment? >> the thing that speaks to me is what i expect we'll see in the next indictment, the kind of one-two-three of the mueller investigation, which is pinning the tail on the donkey being the orange unanimous the west wing. we have two critical dates, there are others here but you may notice that on june 8, these russians set up a special web site, a fac...

Elected with russia and in two days they'll ask each other what to do. this explains why trump gave the statement about june the 9. >> you're bearing something that bill kristol and i have discussed before which is that donald trump is sophisticated about his defense here and bill john is quoting from page 13 of this indictment which says on june 8 these russians launched d.c. leaks and used it to release stolen e-mails and he pointed to the fact it was the next day you had this trump tower meeting and that donald trump has been exposed for interfering in defense of a trump tower meeting which...