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And mass extinction in the animal world. it's serious stuff. >> how binding is it? >> i've kind of heard from a lot of folks that it's not so binding. it's voluntary. >> it is a binding agreement in its whole, but the actual, those plans that the countries brought forward, those are not legally binding and there are a lot of people saying the trump administration wouldn't have anything to lose by staying in this agreement and they could pursue whatever energy policies they wanted. on the one hand, not meet the pledges that president obama made as part of the paris process and that they wouldn'...

I believe i will serve well as america's next secretary of the treasury. but first, i want to correct the record about my involvement with indy mac bank. since i was first nominated to serve as treasury secretary, i have been maligned as taking advantage of others' hardship in order to earn a buck. nothing could be further than the truth. during the summer of 2008, i saw the devastation that was caused by the housing crisis, when i watched people line up to get their life savings out of indy mac bank. it was the middle of the financial crisis and despite the global panic, i saw a way to save t...

And she joints us from paris. we know there has been this last-minute delay. are you concerned about that, amanda, with all of the progress we heard coming out of this conference? >> hi, natalie. we're here in paris because we know we need to work together globally to reach the first ever binding agreement on climate change. this is a severe problem, and this is cop 21. it's taken 21 conferences to get this far. if it takes one more day to get that agreement, we're going to need to go there. but my biggest concern is that the agreement as currently stands is not going to go far enough. >> and ...

There is no binding agreement as of yet and that word can have a lot of different complicated meanings in the context of international agreements. but there's concern that anything truly binding would have to be ratified by a united states senate that clearly will never in at least the near future provide the two-thirds margin necessary to ratify it. >> even when you sign a treaty like i think nixon did, the antiballistic missile treaty, george w. bush reneged on it. he got out of it. so any treaty can be withdrawn from. and so what we need is durable commitments that are built upon year after...

Bernardino, governor brown told me what he expects from the international community at the climate talks. >> if you say the world is totally dependent on oil in many parts of the world, coal and certainly natural gas, we are fossil fuel. that is individualism and oil. now to move toward a more enlightened sustainable world we have to transform with lots of technology, with even differences in the way we see the world and how we live in the world. that's going to take decades. so we're taking baby steps but we got to walk before we run. an my benchmark is that the countries get out of paris hav...